Ma allora non vende neanche in Giappone? ...

Marco

macche cavolate scrivete, qui la verita':

http://games.blogo.nl/?comments/376/22258

"Sony is a strong company. It’s sun in Taurus in sextile with Saturn reflects a culture where hard work is inherent to its success: strong work ethic. Sony makes durable products. The PlayStation is in fact a little black box – and this is a very Saturnal earthy image. The product is sturdy – designed to last. This might be one of the reasons why the playstation  has been so successful – it's not easy for young kids to break. Sony’s weakness is probably that it is not inclined to “change a winning team”. This is it's Achilles’ heel. At the top - there will be a conservative culture.

On the other hand, Sony’s Venus/Uranus conjunction in Gemini – shows how innovative the company can be when it comes to its products. Genial is some respects. It can be creative and at the same time innovative. It is quite inspiring. Sony – set up shortly after the end of the Second World War, has enormous strengths. With regard to the launch of PlayStation 3, as an astrologer, I would have suggested they wait until Jupiter was in Sagittarius. However, the European launch takes advantage of the Jupiter ingress into Sagittarius, so it could be that European sales are higher in the period following the launch than they were in the US and Japan.

Both Nintendo and Sony have a t-square in their horoscopes. These are powerful players. There is a lot of internal tension, but out of this tension comes growth and the need to take on new challenges.

Nintendo is intelligent, good in positioning itself on the market, and it makes attractive products. There is a lot of attention given to the form (Venus in Libra). It is an enormously competitive company, and will attract a certain sort of gamer, the more intellectual types and people who find the “look” and feel of the product at least as important as what it does. Nintendo is a company that wants to lead the parade in a unique way. Apple is a similar sort of company.

Then the Nintendo Wii. This launch horoscope once again shows- in this case a particularly strong Scorpio theme. This is interesting, because Scorpio is a fixed sign and the Nintendo Wii is an active product. Gamers are used to sitting down to play, with the Wii, you have to get  out of your chair. Will hard-core gamers change their behaviour? Sorry, but this horoscope does not fit the product. It is difficult to imagine that Nintendo will have a quick success story with the Wii. Also Nintendo’s birth chart shows that the company has its progressed Sun in square with its radix Saturn. This suggests that in general, the company will have to work hard – very hard – to book results.

This could be a good year for Microsoft. Jupiter’s entry into Sagittarius heralds a year in which Jupiter will transit Microsoft’s radix Sun and Mars. This shows expansion, activity, and optimism. Sagittarius is good at adjusting to new circumstances and will aim for big, bigger, biggest!

In July 2006 Microsoft had its Saturn return. It is possible that during the summer, Microsoft re-defined its aims and strategy. “Where do we want to be thirty years from now?” It is a major transit. Possible changes at the top, definitely a sense of “coming of age”.

The Saturn/Uranus opposition (end 2008) will contact Microsoft’s radix Mercurius. Some aspect of the company will have to change at this time. Mercury – marketing? Possibly. In any case rapid change – growth that is possibly forced by having one’s back against the wall.  It could point to a strong opponent. However on the more positive side, it could point to new innovation – i.e. a new product.

There is a strong synastry between the Microsoft horoscope and the launch horoscope for the Xbox 360 on 22 November 2005. A strong Sagittarius link is shown with both launch and radix Suns in this sign. Sagittarians think big and like to take a gamble. Play and gaming is certainly something for the fire signs. The links between the charts include: Venus conjunct Venus; Mercury conjunct Sun; Jupiter conjunct Uranus. In the long run – this will surely prove to be a good, successful product. It aptly reflects the company. However, Mercury in the launch horoscope is retrograde – YUK – not so good. Success will come slowly – Microsoft needs to take a long breath. It will take them some time to establish the Xbox 360. People need to connect with the product first. But it will come for sure.
 
As things stand at present, I personally feel that Sony has the lead. However – the need for a narrative – where there has to be a winner – sits uncomfortably on my shoulders. In the long term – all three companies are offering something different. I feel that there is room in the market for all three. However, I personally think, that the weakest horoscope, i.e. the horoscope that sits most uncomfortably with the product, is the Nintendo Wii."

Non mi sembra che si parlava di astrologia o previsioni sui prossimi 30 anni o di vincitori finali di guerra con altre console, no?
Si commentava la situazione attuale: opinione della stampa + notizie (senza dati ufficiali atm) sulle vendite , il tutto non pare molto favorevole alla PS3.

Marco

Dai numeri di console vendute si sa che 360 ha venduto molto di piu' essendo uscito prima ma e' interessante cercare di valutare la richiesta del pubblico, cioe' se il numero di ps3 vendute al pubblico finora e' effettivamente sopra o sotto le aspettative di Sony. Ad esempio come citi dall'articolo-cagatina , se Sony ha fatto uno huge shipment in quello che e' uno dei suoi mercati migliori e' anche perche' si aspettava di venderne un bel po' apparentemente piu' di quelle che sono state vendute...ovviamente non ci si riferisce solo alle foto di quell'articolo.


Marco

Lol ho appnea trovato un altro articolo che parla prprio di quelle foto.
Non so riguardo al Wii in Nord America ma approvo se il 360 ha venduto di piu'.
Cioe' non mi dispiace il Wii ma tra ps3 e wii prefrerisco 360.



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Though images of electronics stores adorned with snaking lines of pimply faced teenagers, desperate parents and eager technophiles searching for an elusive Sony PlayStation 3 blanketed the Internet before the holidays, the high-tech, high-priced video game console may no longer be so hard to find.

Blogs, recently filled with stories of gamers on the hunt for PS3s, are now littered with accounts of stockpiles of the machines uncovered at major retailers. Even scalpers have returned machines they picked up before the holidays to sell on Web sites like eBay but failed to unload.

One slightly frustrated wife of a wannabe PS3 scalper who didn't want to be identified said her basement was cluttered with several units they hoped to return after the demand for the machines took a post-holiday nose dive on eBay.

"I certainly haven't been to every store in the country, but anecdotally it's an issue," said Brian Crecente, editor in chief of gaming blog Kotaku.com. Crecente photographed a large stack of PS3s for sale at a major U.S. electronics retailer just after the holidays.

A visit to eBay finds the PlayStation 3 selling for a retail price of $500 for a 20-gig model and $600 for 60-gigs, a stark contrast to the $2,000 plus they went for before Christmas. As of this writing, Best Buy's Web site shows that the high-end model is available on order.

But as skeptics question the authenticity of the PS3 supply shortage due to overwhelming demand, others call it conspiracy theory hogwash.


'Console Launch: The Movie'

"Rumors and speculation surround every console launch," explained Michael Gartenberg, vice president and research director at Jupiter Research. "Someday Oliver Stone is going to do a movie about the launch of a video game console and all the cabals and clandestine groups keeping them out of stores."

Gartenberg said that while the PS3 may be available in a store here or there, if you want one you're still likely to resort to paying more than the retail price in an online auction house.


"At this particular point in time there aren't enough PS3s to go around," he said. "The question is what happens when supply catches up to demand. Will consumers still want it?"

But is that true? Is there more demand for the PlayStation 3 than there is supply?

"Demand was outstripping supply at launch, but with so few units readily available, it would be shocking if that wasn't the case," said John Davison, vice president and editorial director of the 1UP Network, a series of Web sites and multimedia productions on gaming. "I don't think it'll be possible to assess whether it's truly a hit until this time next year."

Davison and others agreed that the real test for the PS3 would come next holiday season, after the system is readily available and developers have had a chance to produce some grade A games.

While not willing to talk about specific sales figures, Sony believes the PS3 is doing well.

"Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," said Sony spokesman David Karraker.

Karraker admitted that doesn't necessarily mean that every system Sony sold to retailers like Best Buy made it to the shelves and said that the units that Crecente posted on Kotaku.com were put out after the holidays and beyond the company's field of vision.

It's virtually impossible to know what PlayStation 3 units were sold to real gamers, their friends and families, and which ones went to middlemen looking to make a couple of quick bucks off the fervor surrounding it.


According to Gartenberg, who cares?

A me personalmente, come sviluppatore, interesserebbe di più sapere quanti giochi sono stati venduti per le varie piattaforme. Però ovviamente si dovrà aspettare un po' per fare i confronti. XBLA è, a mio parere, il fenomeno killer in assoluto, con l'hit rate più alto della storia del digital delivery.

Nintendo e Sony creeranno un market place analogo? Non so... ma è chiaro che MS ha un grandissimo vantaggio di esperienza, lì.

Inoltre, a proposito delle menate scritte sull'attach-rate (5.4 giochi retail per ogni Xbox 360) della Xbox, che confinerebbe la 360 agli hardcore gamers: prima di tutto non so se è ragionevole pensare che ci siano dieci milioni di hardcore gamers tutti con la 360. Se fosse così, allora sarebbe la regina dell'hardcore e probabilmente le vendite di PC dovrebbero essere calate del 30%, cosa che non è vera.
In secondo luogo, a mio parere l'attach-rate molto alto della 360 dipende in grandissima parte dalla comodità "un-clic" con cui si scaricano le demo dei giochi.
Basta collegarsi un attimo per vedere quanta gente gioca alla demo-online di Lost Planet (tanto per fare un esempio). Ignorare questa rivoluzione (rispetto al pagare una rivista per avere un disco con tre demo) è come parlare di pescare trote senza essere mai andati al fiume.

Detto questo, più console ci sono, e più sono diverse, più sono contento.

Considerato che si usa, se non sbaglio, solo dalla console, il "sorgente" è un problema di Sony, l'importante è che il risultato sia pulito e leggibile.


Invece a me l'idea dei punti MS o Nintendo piace per un semplice fatto, ovvero che rende più "ordinate" le fasce di prezzo, oltre a creare un ottimo "articolo" da regalo con le schede punti.


Questo è veramente un'ottima cosa.